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Yearling full of energy - rearing and bucking while being lead.

Hello!

I have just started to train my little yearling to lead. She has been doing really well and is even jogging right along with me. However, occasionally she decides it would be more fun to rear and buck while I am trying to lead her. I am looking for some advice on how best to work her through this before it becomes a real issue and a dangerous one at that.

Sasafras
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I wd use the 30 foot lead line, coiled correctly, on the Dually,so you can give her space if she explodes. You can put your elbow up to the nearside eye, or your hand, so she sees you and respects your space.
Rope control, a light touch, and your own body energy and movements are very important here. The jogging could be what is bringing her adrenaline up ,maybe keep it to slower paces till she is settled. Backing up as much as you walking forwards,always on light line.. make it more fun to be with you than not being with you! Asking not demanding. All the best!

Janice Fansher
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Thanks for the suggestions. I am using the dually and long lead line so when she does explode is it better just to let her work it out rather than trying to school her with the dually? I am just learning this method of training and therefore it is relative new to me. Right now if I do try to school her it just elevates the behaviour so what I am doing is not helping the situation.

MaggieF, Melbourne - Australia
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Great advice from Sasafras and it sounds as if you have thought it through yourself too. If she is only a yearling do not expect too much from her. Keep the sessions very short and I would also only walk her at this stage. Just get her used to the dually, walking, stopping, backing up, standing stil. My other thought would be to give her the opportunity to get some of her excess youthful exuberance out first so maybe just let her run free in the round yard first.

Janice Fansher
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Thanks for that. I really did think that maybe I was pushing her to much. She was working so well then I started the process of jogging her and this is when things started to fall off the rails. It has been several years since a trained my last yearling. I had three at the time and they had the chance to romp and play with each other. She doesn't have this. I wanted to show her as a yearling but I just wondered if I might be asking too much than what she is ready for. It is great to have the affirmation of my initial thoughts. Today I did my first join up session. I just finished a new round pen made to Monty's specs and thought I had better get her in there. I was nervous but she did super. She did buck and rear but I managed to keep her moving and get all four gestures. She joined-up and followed me in a serpentine. It was so great and fun too!! SO tomorrow I will do join up again and then just go back to simple things with her and always keep in my mind they may be simple to me but they are a big deal to her. :-)
You mentioned to let her get rid of some energy in the round pen. Should I just let move freely and if so what if she chooses not to run off steam? Also, how old do you think she should be when I ask more things from her?

MaggieF, Melbourne - Australia
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Hi jfansher - well done with join up when she is so young. I think you will find she is more responsive now. She was obviously getting rid of some of that excess energy during join up so that was good. I not very experienced but I do prefer to take young horses slowly and she is just a baby however now you have achieved join-up I think you should be able to progress to train her to show her as a yearling. Just take it slowly and get her excellent at walking with you, stopping, backing etc before you try trotting with her. Some pole work would probably help here and keep her interested and responsive. I would only try trotting after a join up session when she has got rid of some of that excess energy. Remember Monty says not to over do join up - I think he suggests only 6 times with the one horse - so be a little conservative with it. I do find that a join up is good with my young mare when she hasn't been ridden for awhile or when she has become a bit cheeky and bossy. So far I have only done it four times but I do send her away in the paddock quite often if she comes to me in a bossy manner. Not sure what I will do once we reach 6 join ups!
Re your questions - I would let her run off steam with a join up session if she does not choose to run off steam by herself. There is a lot you can do with her at this age just with the dually and you on the ground - just don't overdo it i.e short lessons which do not demand too much, just one learning experience at a time, try to keep it relaxed and fun and give her some breaks for a few days between training sessions. But you should be able to get her completely OK with the dually, teach her to stand still and once you have achieved this to tie up, to rub her all over and to put your lead rope all over her, to pick up her hooves with the lead rope looped around the back of them, to pick up all her hooves and have her stand quietly while you do so, to load into a trailer and go out with you to different places - even shows etc. It would be interesting to know what others think but I wouldn't push her too far until she is much older - for example I wouldn't try to saddle her and ride her until she was at least three.

Janice Fansher
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Thank you so much! You have know idea how much I appreciate this feedback. She is a smart little gal!! She joined up with me again today. I didn't get the head down gesture but that's okay. She moved really well, a lot less action! She did a bit of bucking but NO rearing!:-) Then I lead her a bit, she was going to try to exhibit some rearing but she didn't, I backed her up nicely. She does pick up all her feet and has been standing quietly. It is just recently she had started to act silly. I think I am on the road to "recovery" I just want to get her back to where she was before I started trotting. She would lead so well, when I stopped she stopped. Something she has done since day one is pin her ears back at me. However, since after yesterday's join-up session I have noticed she hasn't done it!! So I think we have turned a corner!

I guess at this point I am now looking for ways to help her burn a little energy.

Thanks again for the feedback!

Janice Fansher
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I have had the suggestion to use one of my older horses and pony my yearling for exercise. Does this sound like something I should try?

MaggieF, Melbourne - Australia
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Depends a lot on where you intend to lead her etc., how well she and the other horse get on, how well she is leading etc. It can be very effective if you are leading her in an area where she can't escape and run across roads etc. if the two horses know each other well, if the older horse and you are used to leading another horse and if she is very responsive and good with the dually on the ground. Just a lot of IFs and questions you would have to think through carefully yourself. Personally - I wouldn't try it until she is much older and sensible as you could undo all the good work you are currently achieving.

Janice Fansher
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Thanks for your suggestions. I agree on all accounts. I thought if I took her with me in a field like suggested would be a recipe for disaster. Also, I told the individual she needs to be comfortable with the other horse too! I felt to ask her to come along with a horse that is always sending her "away" would be so counter productive! She would get signals to go away and I would be expecting her to come with us. That would certainly mess with her mind. I thought first I just might take the horse I would use in the pasture and lope just so she could run and buck along with us. I would certainly keep my safety in mind not to get kicked in this process. I have also started to put my three older horses with her at night for about an hour and she has been playing with one of them. So I am going to take this very slow, she is using the dually very well but it would be a whole different story when I was on the back of another horse, she would have to keep a constant even gait or I would have difficulty releasing the pressure off when she came up off of it.

I worked with her yesterday and she hasn't been silly since we completed our first join-up session so I know we are back on track! Thanks again for your feedback!

Mel - Ramsgate UK
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Really helpful reading through this one. BamBam just 2 now, has been responding to the Daully very well, trot he does become a bit excited, but he is responding to woah, steady and stand very well now, we've introduced some poles for him, some requiring a steady step over for variety and others I've let him go over at a trot just before the poles, he likes this, got a bit excited at first, but responds to steady really well and slows down. First couple of times he bumped his shoulder into me, but after a couple of times doing that he's learnt to go a bit further away from me.
I've managed to do the first join up in the paddock as our round pen is not ready yet, that was quite amazing and i didnt have to travel as far as i was expecting as he responded with the eyes and body language really well, this has had a good effect on him. Quite often when I sit and eat lunch near the paddock, he will come and graze on the other side of the fence next to me. If I move away from him, he'll follow continuing his grazing.
We've intricuced a ball into his paddock, at first he ran like crazy, now I can kick the ball over to him and he'll walk forward to it, sniff it, then kicks it away, quite impressed with that one.
Meal times he got a bit pushy over, especially if we arrived at the stables and too food to him, so now when we arrive, we go and say hello first and when he responds, which he does, we then go and fetch the meals. He's also responding to hand signals, I've applied a bit of dog training with him and he'll respond to a stop hand signal, a come and get an itch signal he comes over quite eagerly for that one, and voice command for food if he's across the field, we'll call NumNum ( I use that for the cats when I call them in for dinner) and his response is immediate and a beautiful trot over. He has to say hello first and let us rub between his eyes, then he can have his food.
It's a big learning curve for us and reading the comments above have been helpful tonight.

MaggieF, Melbourne - Australia
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Great to read of your progress with BamBam, Mel. Everything sounds like it is progressing so well, congratulations!