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vertical bucking??!

Hello!

my brumby mare is fine and bombproof to ride at trot/walk but as soon as your try a canter, after the first stride she will literally vertical buck..!! theres nothing wrong with her back or conformation, shes fine. Ive seen her in the paddock and most times she will vertical buck even without a rider in the paddock after 1 stride of canter. im thinking it may be a balance problem but ive seen her cantering without bucking, she gallopes and trots fine aswell. She has perfect balance in her trot and has no pigeon toe or anything. We will have to move her on because she even dominates humans and other animals (we think she may have been head mare in the wild) and because of her bucking problem if its not resolved. Does anyone know of solutions or a reason why?

Kleinne - Utah, U.S.A.
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I would definitely consider the buckstopper with your mare if this has been a consistent problem. Watch the series of Uni video's if you haven't already on the buckstopper. I think you'll find this would be the solution to her problem.

vicci - UK (North Wales)
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While I agree with Kleinne about use of a buckstopper I strongly recommend getting a trainer who knows how to use it to work with you. In the meantime some more analysis I think would be good. Does the saddle fit well? Is there a particular time/pre-buck behaviour that she demonstrates? what do you do after she has bucked? Do you have a Dually? Has she been longlinged and if so does she buck when canteres in longlines? Horses have no desire to be "dominant" over humans, it is usually a miscommunication - can you describe what she is doing that makes you think this? Sorry for the interrogation ;-) but I feel we need more information in order to help out :-) Regarding 'moving her on' it is important that you make any potential buyers very aware of her bucking issue to avoid any liability coming back to you.

LennyLlama
Hello!

the saddle fits quite well. With the dominant behaviour she will try and charge you, teeth baring, and will also threaten to bight ALOT. I have corrected her numerous times and did leadership activities wither her but she still trys to dominate as she was wild only 4 years ago and 2 of those years she spent in a 1000 acre paddock just roaming and not touched. As she is a brumby (mustang) she may have been the head mare as she is VERY dominant, usually she will turn the schooling that i do on her aggressivness into some sort of argument with her willingness to bight and even rear sometimes in disagreement.

Kleinne - Utah, U.S.A.
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I don't know what your experience with horses is but these behaviors are very concerning and sound as if a professional is something you should seriously consider. Join up would be very helpful to try to establish a better relationship with this mare but again her aggressive behavior is a larger concern then her bucking. I think the bucking is a symptom of much deeper problems with this horse that need to be addressed. Please be careful in handling her and I certainly would not be riding or allowing anyone to ride such an aggressive mare.

vicci - UK (North Wales)
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I'm with Kleinne, this is very worrying and she should not be ridden at the moment. Two years of 'domestication' is plenty long enough, even for an untouched. This behaviour is nothing to do with the fact that she was wild - there is something else going on either from her past encounters with humans or some current communication breakdown. For example, if she was only handled when she was 'wild' to be wormed, or vet checked or branded etc. etc. her experience of humans was negative but even allowing for that, two years of your careful handling should not still mean you have a horse that is biting and charging so it needs deeper exploration. If she is that aggressive I'm not sure it would be safe for you to do Join Up with her - is there a Monty approved Instructor near you at all?