Hi everyone
My 2 and 3/4 year old irish draft x tb is called Wren and this is what is happening with Wren at the moment.
Now I have introduced him to his dually halter, and have done leading with him, so now he walks perfectly when I walk without asking him and he stops dead on my shoulder when I stop, he turns with me and quite happily follows everywhere.
But! When I went to run off to get him to follow me he decided that he didnt want to do that and put in a rear, now wren is 16hh and very strong and even with the dually on he pulled me off my feet and I am 9 stone 5'4 in height. So after he goes up I ask him again without reward until he comes with me and then he resists and plants himself, he has even broken away from me in my 7 acre field with the dually on with the line training behind was not a good time! But he let me catch him and was quite happy I just think he saw all his friends at the other end of the field was being asked something new and thought nah Ill got see my mates thanks!
So he won't come with me when I ask him too if its faster than walk, what now?
Do I need to keep going with the leading training until he gets it or what?
Thanks
Amber
Hi Amber I was happy to find your question today. My Irish Sport Horse is a two year old colt who has been castrated four weeks ago. I would like to assume our horse's behavior is - Irish ??? :-) Hero has had Dually Training and follows not really perfectly but really good for his age and state of training. I am experienced the same issue with the second step of Dually Training, the fast running or going away and wanting the horse to follow. Watching the leading lessons here in the Uni and also remembering all the horses I have been doing it with, I resumed that all of them are different. Ours are by nature couragous and calm but have their hard head too. I even had to stop Dually Training and go on with a light knot halter right when I started to work with my horse because he was very sensitive on his hard part of the nose where the Dually would school him. He was unpossible to send backwards: he stroke out with the forefood and bit me- quick like a crocodile. I started again with the Dually when I earned his respect with moving him where I wanted an when I wanted on a long rope, keeping him on a distance. We gradually rose the presure on his nose, first just with the hand and then with the Dually. I guess, your horse just needs some more steps towards the quick movement of pulling him to follow immediately, like mine. Remember: incremental learning. I was pulling on mine and he went backwards and I sent him backwards but that didn't always help. We came to a point when I could see on his face and in his chest muscels that there is just a little, little resistence left so I just asked a little... just softly and I could see his muscels relax and make a forward effort and there he was moving away from the paddock towards me. Read him, give him time and hook your long line on your hip left side, left hand hooked on the hip, line coming from front around your bak. Stand as if you are wake boarding and put your feet as much into the sand as he does when he refuses to walk and he will have some difficulties to run away and tear you down. My next step at the moment is trotting on hand. One session and very little result... I need a second person aside on 45° to help with the line throwing softly to tell him that trott is what I am asking him to do... let's keep in touch telling each other how things are going. Good Luck, VioBerlin
Does anyone have any more advice about getting a horse to trot/jog... anything faster than a walk while being led??? My horses don't rear they just walk and don't really speed up to get the release. They are very good with leading at a walk with the dually like amber's horse. I looked at the dually videos on here with Monty and Zimfandel. His horse stops him in his track them comes off pressure. My horses don't really stop they just start walking even if I started out at a run/jog... I can video it if it helps but if anyone has any advice that would be great! :)
Hi Almira
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When I was at my Intro Course one person led the horse an another person walked a distance behind holding a stick with plastic bags on it.
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When the person leading the horse picked up the pace and said the word "trot", and the horse didn't respond, the person with the bag stick shook it to get the horse to move.
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It worked pretty well. Our rescue horse Renacer was like yours and would not move with me. I got my husband to hold the stick and shake it when he wouldn't move and it worked.
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Kind regards,
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Gen
I don't know if this is a Monty approved way. I teach my horses the gait commands loose in the round pen. For Example when the horse is Trotting I say "Trot Good Boy Trot". Then I encourage them to change speed. So if I slow them down and they walk I say "Walk Good Boy Walk" I repeat this with every gait they are in. Then they learn the command. So when I lead them at least they know what I want when I ask. It has always worked very well for me.
Amber it sounds like Almira's method should work better for you because your horse is strong willed. My way works with a horse that just want to do everything you ask.