I second the suggestion, LadyR!
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As for your question, I personally wouldn't dream of having a horse that couldn't stand tied.
It's absolutely great if your horse can stay in place - "ground tie" - without it, but there are 100 of situations where being tied would be necessary for safety's sake if nothing else.
In a trailer, at the vet, at a competition, or any other thing where you have to leave your horse but can't risk having horses roaming freely.
Because no matter how obedient they can be - they are still horses and if they are frightened or curious about something (or plain hungry - and we all know how often *that* happens! LOL!) they WILL move.

It took me some time to get Star to stand tied but she does it willingly now for as long as I want.
I built her up slowly to this and rewarded her with love and release.
A gentle walk after a few seconds of being tied and so on.
A good suggestion for a lesson. I hope we'll get one.
Ronda

thank you both for your very kind responses and good sense.

You're right Kicki, I can't ignore this aspect of training.

Ronda, when you say you started slowly, do you mean that you stood with Star for a few minutes at the "tieing spot" to begin with? Do you have her actually tied at first?

I'm concerned because this tiny horse was a wild range pony who was rounded up and tied in a trailer under about 12 big horses for the 2 hour long ride to my house, where she was deposited. she was dazed and still has rope burns on her back from that experience. She was tied around the ribcage and then through the halter, which is a good way in this type of situation, I'm told. It was 2 years ago.

Now, because of the join up training, she is very relaxed and trusting. She understands give to pressure with the dually and with my hands to move her about. She long lines and wears her saddle and surcingle. My fear of tieing is that moment when I'm not close and she discovers that she is held fast. The stretchy cord and the panels to stop any backwards flight are equipment that I need to set up and get right the first time, because, with her history, I can't expect that things will go well necessarily. I want to put every safety in place and give her every chance to succeed from the start.

I guess I'll just have to put my mind to it and do this.
wish you were here.

LadyR
There is a piece of equipment called the Blocker/ Aussie ring to use when tying your horse I have seen it used and it is quite impressive in the why it protects your horse and you. Clinton Anderson (who I don't particularly like) sells these and has a video online that explains how to use it
http://www.downunderhorsemanship.com/products2.cfm/ID/665/name/Aussie-Tie-Ring-2-w--Mag-Lok---Stainless
As you are teaching your horse to stand tied also work on ground tying. I drop my lead line and my horse stops and stands. Both are really important your your safety and the horses safety. Hope this gadget helps you with your training

Cheers

Hi LadyR,
I wish I were there as well. Not because I know more than you but just for support.
When I say I started STAR slowly, I meant just a few seconds and then lead her away in circles and then back to the post again and increased it by a few seconds each time.
I stood just far enough away for her to be on her own then made sure she heard me approaching her from the side so she could see me.
I did it this way so she could relate me with release and did this so slowly so as not to give her time to panic.
It worked for me.
STAR was also very wild and very spooky, so it took a lot of patience on both our sides.
Take your time, this is an experience you want her to come away with a good feeling.
You have everything you need in place for this to be a good experience.
Now pick a time when she, as a mare, is in a good mood and try it then.
I do not like Clintons' method in any way, he is an aggressive trainer who uses force and even sticks to do his "training".
With your little girls' past experience this is the last thing she needs.
Work on the post tieing first and then the standing still, at liberty later. One thing at a time.
You'll do fine, I know it.
Ronda

Hi again,
I was just watching Monty and Kelly on horseandcountry.tv
They have a series called: horsemanship essentials and in episode 14 it is about teaching a horse to stand still.
I believe you will really enjoy this.
Ronda
All you do is go to horseandcountry.tv and type at the top
Monty & Kelly: horsemanship essentials and go to the episodes you would like to watch.
Epsoide 14 is about teaching a horse to stand still !!!

Thanks for recommending this website, Majestic! Episode 20 is a real master class in the use of the Dually Halter too.

Great idea!

Thanks Ronda - this website sounds great so I will check it out as soon as I can find the time to do so. See how valuable you are to us all!

I have been trying to work on the same thing with my mare. We are getting better before I knew she had a tieing problem( the people I got her from said she was great come to find out not at all) I tired her she pulled back freak out flip over. I have not just done it little by little I would tie her next to my other horse so she did not feel alone and I would step away never out of site just in case she freak out I was there. And when I went to brush her I would untie. I just got one of those blocked 2 tie rings I love it when she move back or freak out it slid right throw she dose have to pull it alittle but it stop her from getting hurt. she never feel like she is forced to stay there it make it feel more free more her choice to do it. Hope it help a little

I don't know about being valuable or not but I'm back for now.
Remember being tied is essential for your horse. A horse that will not be tied safely is a danger to others and themselves.
Once they learn this they will stand quietly and allow others to handle them properly.
Remember small increments and lots of praise.
My farrier really appreciates that Star stands still for him and so does the vets.