Woah! wonder what happened

Hi Joey!
Welcome to the forum! Good for you to have accomplished Join-up a few times!
Her reaction seems anger to me, she might have enough of the procedure, especially on slippery surface. There is no strict number of times one should do Join-up with a horse, but yours shows that trust can be over-asked. She did Follow-up. when you wisely took the pressure off, so she's with you, if you believe in her. So believe in her! And in yourself!
Go on with other procedures like longlining etc. to keep her interested, always using the same bodylanguage you had in the Join-up. Work on safe soil and keep safe yourself, this keeps your adrenalin down, and hers too.
Will you keep us posted on how you're doing?

I have seen some questionable behavior in my horse herd over the last couple of weeks. I'd never been afraid in the pasture until a week ago. I don't know if it's weather related, but the horses seem to be on edge. Maybe you are experiencing the same thing. I would keep establishing your "alpha" position, letting your mare know that you are in control and you can be trusted. I agree with Miriam, work on some other ground exercises to keep your mare's mind engaged. Stay safe!

Try and get some practice in with some other horses as well - preferably quiet ones that can allow you to learn. Feel free to watch those lessons over and over to see how Monty keeps the pressure on and off. Good note Miriam.

Thank you very much, for your answers, yes I am now working on other things because it’s just too slippery to make join up’s she is amazing when I go in she comes right up to me and walk with me like a join up I think she was just tiring to tell me that I shall stop doing that on that slippery sufferance! She looked me right in my eye I never experienced that it was scary and the other way fantastic that she was trying to tell me something wow. Only that with the hoofs was not funny but she did not hurt me or something but she showed me to stop! Well anyway I am not teaching her to stand still and things like this to put the saddle on without tying her up and long Lining will be the next thing. I am amazed how Monty’s way is working I have to say that I am a beginner and I just learned riding for 1 year and I have my horse for 8 Month now and she is so nice it’s a Noriker with 800 Kilos a really big Horse but a gentle giant so that’s me for now I will with some more videos from Monty
Cheers Joey

Hi Joey!
Your gentle giant seems to really settle with you, so let her enjoy the trust for the time being.
Join-up would be only for making the first contact, now you're on your way to establish a deeper bond with her. If you want to practice Join-up, borrow some other gentle horse in your stable, but don't do Join-up too often, think of yoiur schoolteacher trying to teach you the ABC, after you'd be much further on your way to reading, it would be so boring!
The scary moment was a good warning, don't let it come this far in the future, it's not in anyones advantage.
Keep going, it's so much fun!

oookkaaayyy now i understand what you mean the join up is not nesesery to do evry time!!! ok now I will go to the next steps then how exiting.......

So glad I mentioned this, so now you see that doing the same thing over and over again can be counterproductive. We both learned something here, for me it's a good lesson too. We take for granted that others know, sometimes you just have to go back 1 step to gain 3!
So off you go and stay in contact!

Yes I will for sure Thank You

Dear Joey,
I am not sure whether the experience I had with my horse can be compared to the rearing you experienced in the round-pen. My horse, a gentle, giant, 12 years old, hanoveran horse that is very intelligent and will never fight unless he is really forced to do it (I notced that he only threatens to kick another horse whenever the other does not leave him alone even after he tried to step away), once reared and stood on his hind legs while I was trying to discipline him with the dually halter, because he would not let the farrier finish his left hind leg. I was walking into his space and forcing him to move backwards, because he had nearly hurt the farrier when pulling the hind leg out of the hands of the farrier. Once he stood on his hind legs, I immediately took the pressure from the halter to avoid upsetting him any more and especially to avoid him tipping over. The farrier said that the horse might have lashed out with its front legs at me. But, I remember I had not been afraid at all for myself, because even then (I owned Felton for only two month then) I knew that my horse will first show the least agressive defence gesture before he might be forced to do more. He just reacted to my pulling towards him on the dually halter. He had no agression toawards my person in his mind. Thus, I decided not to let things escalate and got some carrots out, because I knew food does perfectly distract my horse and with a goot treat of carrots the farrier was able to hammer the remaining nails into his hind hoof. Just after this experience I stared analysing why my horse reacted like this. The same farrier had worked on him just 6 weeks ago without any problems. I remembered that I had noticed that the farrier had been very nervous when he arrived, because I had asked him about it and he told me that he had been insured by a hores that stepped on his arm. He wore a bandage around his right arm. He also mentioned that since his injury he only had difficult horses to work on. I am quite sure now that it was not the horses that had been difficult but the farrier that could not do his job propperly and I am convinced that he hurt Felton when working on his hind leg. My theory is also supported by the fact that about two weeks after the shoes had been on, one hoof received a crack on the side, because the triangle shaped side pieces of the iron had been hammered too tight to the hoof. As I said I am not sure whether my experience helps to explain your experience, but I learned that day that when my horse protests against something he normally has a good reason for it and it is for me to find the real reason, instead of assuming that he just does not want to do what we humans expect him to do. I own him now for one year and a half and there had been several other occasions where I did not listen to his protests and often I felt ashamed afterwards for not listening to him.

Hy Paul, you are so right yes as Monty said the Horses are our best teachers we just have to learn to listen and to trust what thy are trying to tell us.
What I have learned is when I see that the Adrenalin goes up then take pressure down as you said it with the carrot I take her and go for a walk just in the circle and then I start new.....
The problem with the Ferrier is a bad thing that she gets hurt hope it will get soon better.
Cheers Joey