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Dear Monty,   I wrote to you in  February, 2020, about my Hanoverian gelding who is aggressive in his stall WITH ME .  He is okay with  some others.  Since then, I have bought your book "From My Hands to Yours" , I have joined your Equus University and am  studying diligently.  I have  been working consistently  with the dually  halter and have cut out all treats.  Thank you Monty  for this wealth of information. :)     (By the way, he  has greatly improved out of his stall)
   Even though I applied my new knowledge, he's still  aggressive when I try to catch him in his stall.   I just watched your video "Catch a horse in the stall"  which was very informative. 
       For months,  I have been letting an employee put his halter on .  I have NOT  gone in his stall to halter him myself.  I think he is going to lunge or  bite me, he acts so pissed off. ( I guess he is training me … ha ha ha )    When I saw your video, you went right into the stall.  I guess that should be my first move?    I  really want to be able to do this myself, of course.  ( For years  I used to  easily halter him, all of a sudden that has  changed?)  

     Now.... the new world of Covid 19.  I will  only be able to see my horse on May 4th. Have not seen him in 6 weeks.  How do you suggest I start the process of putting on his halter myself in his stall?     You said, " a horse never forgets anything, "   Will he still be as  aggressive with me after not seeing him for 6 weeks?  
   Please advise me,   is there incremental learning to be able to halter him in his stall?  I am extremely dedicated and will do whatever it takes.  
               Sincerely, Carolyn


P.S.  I am your biggest fan!
     
     
       
carolyn
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Why has no one replied?
JoHewittVINTA
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Hi Carolyn. Welcome to the Uni. I'm so sorry no one has tried to help you. I guess it's because the problem you've described sounds like you caused it - why would this fella turn on just you unless you've prompted it? That doesn't mean it's not fixable but it will require you to change! Your horse is talking to you - he is more trusting of other people so why would that be? Something in your history doesn't ring true to him, something lines up with a situation he's found caused him a problem. I suggest you reel in your ambitions for him & concentrate on making him 'comfortable' with you. The obvious answer is Join up. Achieve this with him & then live the principles - always. Understand that our horses read us all the time, so if we try to feed them a falsehood they will know it. Humans have imposed their will with a whip for 6,000 years - but we have no right to do so. Accept that you need to establish a partnership & follow Monty's advice on how to do this & I believe you will succeed. Keep us updated on your progress & we will support your efforts. Cheers, Jo.
carolyn
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Thank you Jo for replying to me.    Of course,  I am sure I caused the problem.  I realize now that I was trying to go to fast.   On Monday,   I will go into his  stall, using diaphramatic breathing, and GO SLOW.  Waiting for him to want to join up.   
     During this COVID 19 I have watched over 200 Monty Roberts lessons on the Uni.   I have learned so much for these lessons, I will use the concepts of "join-up" Monday when I see him for the first time in 7 weeks.    Thank you for your support,  I will let you know how it goes,    Carolyn:)
conniemacklill
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Carolyn
You are on the right path. Monty just made 2 videos on just that. It's called "How To Repair Broken Trust". He tells the audience he has never worked with a horse in front of a crowd that had such a problem. Believe me, that horse (Dream) tried to wheel and kick while trying to bite him also. He said his name should be Nightmare!!
In less than an hour he had him trusting him and the other handler that was helping out.
I'm not saying your problem will leave that quick but he teaches us all that the principles of Join Up should done for the horses life. And he is so right.
I would just say also, that you should not be to quick to blame just yourself. You mentioned that you have not seen him in 7 weeks. Well in that time frame there's been plenty of time for anyone to be aggressive with your horse. Someone has to feed, groom and let him out of the stall daily. I'm just saying anything could have happened and hopefully not intentionally. Maybe , just maybe, one day you will be able to spend quality time with him on a regular basis. I know as we get older time slips away from us, but I still work , at my age, (69), and own 5 horses. I spend at least 2 hours every day, rain or shine, sleet or snow, with them. I have worked with horses over 60 years but since joining the UNI I have learned to have more respect for how to handle them and to walk and talk with them daily.
May you be blessed with the joy of a real partnership with him soon and continue to make his and your life better.
Connie Mack
carolyn
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NO AGGRESSION in his  stall  today  !!     Victorious!!  :)     Yeahhhhh!!

Following Monty's instructions:

    1. Principles of Join up
    2.  Eyes Averted
    3. Diaphramatic breathing
    4. Shoulders down
    5. Slow and patient
    6. Non-invasive manner 



     THANK YOU SO MUCH MONTY  , for your wealth of horse  knowledge and bringing it to the world through   your Equus University. 

   P.S. thanks Jo and Connie for your support:) 

    
JoHewittVINTA
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Fabulous! Well done. And thank you for sharing your success. Please continue to expand your knowledge - now you have proved what Monty says is true " ANYONE CAN LEARN TO USE HIS METHODS." That slow, calm & violence free is effective. Horses do have a language & we can communicate with them. They are willing to partner with us if only we understand how to be fair with them. Huge positive here, keep the momentum going. Cheers, Jo.
conniemacklill
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Congratulations Carolyn.   Well done!!!
Debbie Roberts Loucks, USA
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Wonderful Carolyn! You love your horse very much, because you are being such a good student. Thank you for sharing your success here :)