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My Join-Up® Experience

A horse that won't go.

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I have tried to do join up with a two year old filly several times now.  I have successfully done join up with two other horses several different times.  This filly does not want to go away or run.  She is sound and healthy.  She isn't scared of much.  The round pen has had lots of distractions around it and even had some weeds she wanted to nibble at.  Even when in her normal pen she is usually hard to send away.  An open hand doesn't hardly phase her, nor does a rope.  I tried using a flag and it worked for the first try, but she never joined up.  She is becoming desensitized to the flag too.  How would you send a horse like this away and keep her moving?  
JoHewittVINTA
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Hi & welcome to the Uni. It seems you have fallen into the trap of not recognising the difference between 'violence free' & 'work'. You have inadvertently desensitised your filly to the flag. By not working this tool hard enough when she first failed to react appropriately - in very much the same way my Humphrey was extremely laid back & ignored stimulus, you have trained the wrong response. The thing is this, when you introduce stimulea & it doesn't have the desired effect you must not be gradual in your approach as that causes desensitising, you need to go from very little stimulation, immediately, to a lot albeit it great pressure which is immediately removed/released when your horse acts appropriately so she knows she's done the right thing. I had to chase Humphrey with a plastic feed sack that I cracked in the air like taking out creases from washing before hanging it on the line. Yes, it sounded like a whip & he certainly moved  but it was a totally pain free very chapter in our journey to Join Up & incredible mutual trust. I have gone into potentially dangerous situations to help Humphrey in the certain knowledge that so long as he knows it's me we will both be safe & I can say the same thing for Kirk so it's no fluke - tried & tested. 

I suggest you add something noisy, like a loud referees whistle. In the round pen, wave the flag & if she ignores you then aggressively sprint at her sharply blowing the whistle. This should prompt her to move & when she does lower the pressure so as to only encourage her to keep moving not continue to flee in panic. Remember, a horse cannot come to you unless it has 'gone away' & as Monty stresses "don't go away a little, go away a lot"! Keep the flag waving a lot in front of you to avoid sprinting into a kick & keep this short, sharp shock to a minimum if the filly cooperates. Good luck. Cheers, Jo.
JustDucky
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Thank-you so much for the advice.  I will try it.  You are right that I forgot to remove the stimulus when she responded appropriately.  I will remember to keep that in mind.