Yesterday I tried to joinup with my 8 yrs old stallion, never trained before as he was free to roam around the hills till two months ago.
I did the orientation in the round pen, sent him away at 2 ... but instead of flying he started immediately the chewing and licking, ears in me, bowing of the head and going into a smaller circle.... i I tried anyway t send him off, and got some results, he changed direction at 1 when asked and had come canter but mainlyntrotting, as sono as i release pressure he gives immediately the four signs.
so I tried join up, he moved few steps with me after I have invited him a couple of times, but when I hang him a small rope to the halter he will, follow me step by step with turning and so in.
I will do joinup with him again in the next day, what mekes me wandering is the need to go for the whole procedure while he gives me immediately the four signs...
any similar experience?
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Hi!
No, I didn't have similar experiences. But I think, as you tell he came in from the wild, he gave the signs immediately to be in a herd and not alone. Horses are herd animals, they need safety. The only thing that gives a wild horse safety is a herd. And as he ist a stallion he will tend to let a female horse or human (I don't know if you are) be the leader of the herd. A stallions roll in a herd is always to reproduce and to protect, but never to lead.
Did I understand you right? He is already broken to a halter?
Then next time you get trouble with Follow-Up, take hold of the halter and lead hin for one or two steps, then leave him and see if he will follow. Even one or two more steps on his own is enough! Then stop and give him a good rub on the forehead to reward him, before you start walking away again. You might have to repeat this several times, but it will work fast.
Good luck!
Best wishes from Hamburg, Germany
Jasmin
My gut reaction is that this fellow has at some time being taught to join-up somewhere in his past and that is why he is so responsive. If he joins up this well there is no real need for further join ups unless his behaviour deteriorates.
truth is the poor guy ha been abused in the past, is now 8 and when 3 has been subject to the usual procedure to be broken by a so called trainer, as the boy was continuosly bucking and not cooperate the owner decided to let him be free. Now the owner is dismissing all his wild Horse in order to start a breeding factory and the only one remaining was Xeres... I believe he seeks protection from me, he is cooperative but as at today not controllable when in the SADDLE... he does not buck or do anything terribke, just stay still and move one step at a time.
I will so continue with one of two joinup sessions before starting to use Monty's method to work him out to be a cooperative Horse when ridden...
Dear eponti01 - remember it is the horses language - it goes both ways, and they will communicate with you the whole time you spend with them ! The Join-Up is a process, not something the horse should learn, it is us that needs to see and hear the horse. So, if you ride, walk your horse, stand still, give him a bath, the signs will always be there. All horses give and take every day with their fellow friends - just like we do. Just think of your last conversation with a person, you give and take, you evaluate thoughts and share it with each other. Very simple actually! Your responsibility is to live by the code of ethics in your Join-Up(r) process, not necessarily do any more 6 min Join-Up. That part is 0-1 now you step up to 1-10! Good Luck Warmest Ann/Sweden
Thanks Ann,
by the way my name is Emilio.... I really need some luck as I am trying to go forth with my horse training against all "experts" whose credo is whip&spurs if the horse does not go.
cheers
Emilio